From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: pdumper on Solaris 10 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:21:13 +0100 Message-ID: <878qsnmumu.fsf@telefonica.net> References: <878qwuitbu.fsf@yahoo.com> <87jzcajrnz.fsf@protonmail.com> <86o71mfhox.fsf@gnu.org> <87frmyjn9j.fsf@protonmail.com> <86ldwqfcqv.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5d6jgim.fsf@protonmail.com> <86a5d6f7bn.fsf@gnu.org> <871pyijctd.fsf@protonmail.com> <8634iyf257.fsf@gnu.org> <8634iwex8q.fsf@gnu.org> <86wmg7bso1.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyhzmzbp.fsf@telefonica.net> <86h67bbo0n.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24250"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 10 16:22:13 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1tL23x-00067M-Fr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:22:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tL23B-0003U0-KR; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 10:21:25 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tL239-0003TS-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 10:21:23 -0500 Original-Received: from relayout04-redir.e.movistar.es ([86.109.101.204]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1tL237-00087i-Mk; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 10:21:23 -0500 Original-Received: from sky (125.red-83-37-187.dynamicip.rima-tde.net [83.37.187.125]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: 981711563@telefonica.net) by relayout04.e.movistar.es (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Y72WF66ZYz16LW1; Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:21:13 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <86h67bbo0n.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:39:36 +0200") X-TnetOut-Country: IP: 83.37.187.125 | Country: ES X-TnetOut-Information: AntiSPAM and AntiVIRUS on relayout04 X-TnetOut-MsgID: 4Y72WF66ZYz16LW1.ABBBD X-TnetOut-SpamCheck: no es spam, clean X-TnetOut-From: ofv@wanadoo.es X-TnetOut-Watermark: 1734448874.03569@3APiq6pSOaAq5qnX88wkIw Received-SPF: softfail client-ip=86.109.101.204; envelope-from=ofv@wanadoo.es; helo=relayout04-redir.e.movistar.es X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:326293 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > All correct, but completely irrelevant to the issue at hand. I was specifically addressing your "GC works, and works well". A GC that takes big chunks of time on what is essentially a single-threaded execution engine and, even more significantly, introduces pauses that impacts user experience, does not work well, I would say that it barely works at all, in the sense that it is far from adequate for the kind of application Emacs is. I mean, if igc is finally deemed a success, any effort directed at keeping GC at the expense of anything else would be work invested on a misfeature, IMHO.