From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fringes again Date: 21 May 2002 08:37:14 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <877klyie6t.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1021937963 11994 127.0.0.1 (20 May 2002 23:39:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 23:39:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 179wkM-00037L-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 01:39:22 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 179wyW-0004Dd-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 01:54:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 179wkc-0002E0-00; Mon, 20 May 2002 19:39:38 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp01.fields.gol.com ([203.216.5.131]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 179wiz-00025I-00; Mon, 20 May 2002 19:37:57 -0400 Original-Received: from tc-2-204.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp ([203.216.25.204] helo=tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp) by smtp01.fields.gol.com with esmtp (Magnetic Fields) id 179wix-0006lU-00; Tue, 21 May 2002 08:37:56 +0900 Original-Received: by tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5CC2C30B6; Tue, 21 May 2002 08:37:14 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Simon Josefsson System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 33 X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4225 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4225 Simon Josefsson writes: > I'm not sure if there was any consensus in the last discussion, but at > least there were some voices that wanted it to be possible to disable > the fringes from the menu (I remember Richard said it at least). > > So, how about if I commit this? Um, please no. You appear to have ignored most of the arguments. The menu entries are probably uncontroversial because they allow choosing from a set of different styles. However, you've retained the simple toggling version of `M-x fringe-mode', and there seemed to be a reasonable concensus that the M-x command shouldn't just turn off the fringes, but rather should do something like prompt for a fringe style. There were several good ideas presented. Why not implement one of those? Another criticism is that you define a command called `toggle-fringe' who's distinguishing feature is (apparently) that it only affects the current frame -- if this is the case, it should probably reflect that in the command name. Granted there are plenty of functions that only affect the current frame, but don't have a name that says so, but it really is a bad idea to define two `similar' commands, one affecting all frames, and the other affecting only the current one, and to distinguish between them only by choosing two different-but-apparently-equivalent names. -Miles -- We live, as we dream -- alone....