From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Francesco Potorti` Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [usability] mouse-1 for performing actions? Date: 21 May 2002 23:24:18 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <877klxyz25.fsf@pot.cnuce.cnr.it> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1022016426 19217 127.0.0.1 (21 May 2002 21:27:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 21:27:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17AH9t-0004zq-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 23:27:05 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17AHOV-0008V8-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 23:42:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17AHA8-0006Lw-00; Tue, 21 May 2002 17:27:20 -0400 Original-Received: from pot.cnuce.cnr.it ([146.48.83.182]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17AH7F-00062I-00 for ; Tue, 21 May 2002 17:24:21 -0400 Original-Received: from pot by pot.cnuce.cnr.it with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17AH7C-0001U7-00; Tue, 21 May 2002 23:24:18 +0200 Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 25 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.50 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:4260 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:4260 Simon Josefsson writes: Btw, do ANY other application have this mouse1 + mouse3 mark text feature? gpm does it. But apparently this is not the standard with X applications. rxvt (similar to xterm) does not use this technique. Rather, it uses dragging mouse1 to select a region. But once a region is selected, you can extend it on both sides using mouse3. Netscape, as far as I can see, only uses dragging. Probably, Emacs should use the same conventions as the Gnome applications. Anyone knows if there is such a standard? I haven't seen it before. IMHO dropping this feature in favor of activating buttons and links with mouse-1 is more user friendly (except for old time Emacs users) as it is consistent with how other applications behave. Emacs is oriented towards editing, not navigating. Having mouse1 on a link jump to that link is not what commonly one would expect from an editor.