From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.design,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Extreme Documentation" [was: INFO on add-ons] Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 12:51:02 +0900 Organization: The XEmacs Project Sender: xemacs-design-admin@xemacs.org Message-ID: <877ki2tntl.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <3D728E82.8000808@cox.net> <87ptvxxkoj.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fzwtxad9.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87adn1x705.fsf@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <3D73F89D.2070106@cox.net> <877ki3wvvn.fsf_-_@tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031111491 28861 127.0.0.1 (4 Sep 2002 03:51:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 03:51:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, xemacs-design@xemacs.org Return-path: Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([207.96.1.200]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mRCS-0007VE-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 05:51:28 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27777; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:53:02 -0400 Original-Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA27735 for xemacs-design-mailman@xemacs.org; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:52:20 -0400 Original-Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA27731 for turnbull@tux.org; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:52:20 -0400 Original-Received: from tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.98.109]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA27727 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 23:52:19 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ident=steve) by tleepslib.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 17mRCI-0001Sq-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 12:51:18 +0900 Original-To: Thien-Thi Nguyen In-Reply-To: (Thien-Thi Nguyen's message of "03 Sep 2002 15:05:08 -0400") Original-Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) XEmacs/21.4 (Informed Management, i686-pc-linux) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.61 X-XEmacs-List: design Errors-To: xemacs-design-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-design@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.1 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Discussion of design and features for XEmacs. List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.design:1369 gmane.emacs.devel:7427 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7427 >>>>> "Thien-Thi" == Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: Thien-Thi> "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: Thien-Thi> Aggregating that would be very useful, but how? Thien-Thi> through indirection. Not what I meant---that is implied by "wiki". What I am concerned about is that wikis grow organically according to the needs of their current users. This does not necessarily address the needs of someone new coming in from outside the community, not as well as an intelligent single author/editor can. Also, wikis and FAQs address the past and the common use. They do not provide much if any support for innovative users and developers as such---but once again, an intelligent author/editor could do wonders with that material, I bet. Finally, a pointer from the official documentation to the wiki is useful, but users will justifiably consider that a "punt" by the developers. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py