From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: run-hooks vs. run-mode-hooks. Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 06:43:23 +0900 Message-ID: <877jhkpcp0.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <874qcro5gv.fsf@xs4all.nl> <87br6w8zzo.fsf@xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117230348 27144 80.91.229.2 (27 May 2005 21:45:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 21:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri May 27 23:45:46 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DbmdF-0003Nc-56 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:44:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dbmha-0005fv-DE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:49:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dbmgj-0005WL-Ed for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:48:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dbmgi-0005VK-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:48:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dbmgi-0005V9-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:48:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1Dbmea-0004Ae-4z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2005 17:46:04 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Dbmax-00035R-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:42:19 +0200 Original-Received: from yokohama2-61-203-152-180.ap.0038.net ([61.203.152.180]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:42:19 +0200 Original-Received: from miles by yokohama2-61-203-152-180.ap.0038.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 27 May 2005 23:42:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: yokohama2-61-203-152-180.ap.0038.net System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Cancel-Lock: sha1:c/LFEb2nojNxAXBs7sz6Eax2wmY= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:37803 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60360 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:37803 Lute Kamstra writes: > It seems that that I was badly educated by code I read: I've quite > often seen the use of constructs like the one above. There is, or at least used to be, a fair amount of bad old code that does stuff like that. One of the worst offenders was (not sure if it's been fixed) w3. I remember lots of bug reports where the problem was eventually revealed to be some package getting confused by w3's mucking around with the namespace. -Miles -- Yo mama's so fat when she gets on an elevator it HAS to go down.