From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [comp.emacs] "Emacs" defined in Collins English Dictionary Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:52:55 +0100 Message-ID: <877jgwsoko.fsf@kanga.tapsellferrier.co.uk> References: <8764whreme.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> <17070.64885.595664.420752@mail.eng.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1118779537 16913 80.91.229.2 (14 Jun 2005 20:05:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:05:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, thomas.widmann@harpercollins.co.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 14 22:05:29 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiHdo-000068-J3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:04:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiHis-0002eM-S8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:09:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiHgu-0001ud-3o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:07:20 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DiHgq-0001sm-N8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:07:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DiHgp-0001qa-VS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:07:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.168.156.78] (helo=owls-tree.tapsellferrier.co.uk) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1DiHcL-0003R8-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:02:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.168.156.68] (helo=kanga) by owls-tree.tapsellferrier.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50 #1 (Debian)) id 1DiHSU-0003KB-5B; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:52:26 +0100 Original-Received: from nferrier by kanga with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DiHSx-0000mC-Pa; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 20:52:55 +0100 Original-To: saint@eng.it In-Reply-To: <17070.64885.595664.420752@mail.eng.it> (Gian Uberto Lauri's message of "Tue, 14 Jun 2005 17:53:25 +0200") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:38829 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:38829 GianUberto.Lauri@eng.it (Gian Uberto Lauri) writes: >>>>>> "RJC" == Robert J Chassell writes: > > RJC> Like a shell which has VI, Emacs has editing. In the same way, > RJC> the various graphic user interfaces have editors and word > RJC> processors, too. And you can move or rename files in all the > RJC> interfaces. > > I completly disagree. > > Emacs is an editor, the finest one. Oh, by the way, it's programmable > in the same language used to build it. This leaves the door open to > the most strange uses of a text editor, a thing that pleases hackers. > > Integrated envirnonment usually lack the elegance and simple > extensibility of Emacs while all the extensions are both a sort of > editing and a very useful complement to editing. At the risk of sounding pious... we really are getting into religous territory here when we're supposed to all be doing what we can to make a release happen. I know I'm as guilty as everyone else... but I've just noticed it. Nic