From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: menu-bar: disable items when no frame visible Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:02:27 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <877jarvopy.fsf@jurta.org> References: <708F3D2D-A87C-4F80-BC27-171D82653F4D@gmail.com> <8764qcvqfs.fsf@jurta.org> <1D9CD839-4D59-46FD-A024-BC1EA850B3B0@gmail.com> <87lkz8bdf2.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1133266402 31505 80.91.229.2 (29 Nov 2005 12:13:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:13:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 29 13:13:04 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eh1Yz-0000Mq-Pv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:14:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eh1Yv-0005pF-BF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:14:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Eh1Wc-00058S-Aq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:11:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Eh1WZ-00057N-Hp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:11:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Eh1WZ-00057C-41 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:11:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.111] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Eh1WY-0004fk-P2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:11:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-38-68-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.38.68]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC2F1CEC; Tue, 29 Nov 2005 11:11:57 +0200 (EET) Original-To: David Reitter In-Reply-To: <87lkz8bdf2.fsf@jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:44:33 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46754 Archived-At: >>> Instead of disabling some menu items one by one, wouldn't it be >>> better to disable all menu items if the frame attached to the menu >>> is not visible. Operating on non-visible frames from the visible >>> menu is not only confusing, but might be dangerous. >> >> Err, what menu is shown when there is no visible frame? > > In GTK builds it is possible to detach the toolbar, menu or submenu > from the frame. After iconifying the frame, the floating menu is > still shown. I want to clarify: when the frame is minimized in GTK, all its detached menus are minimized as well, but not the tool bar. The floating tool bar is still shown when its frame is not visible. I don't know is it possible to keep detached menus visible with the iconified frame with some configuration, but the detached tool bar with the hidden frame is what I can see in the GTK Emacs build. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/