From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:33:42 +0900 Message-ID: <877immy5qx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87fy1nbe4f.fsf@jurta.org> <86myvu2zw1.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <20070912093913.GB12104@saeurebad.de> <87wsuum8qw.fsf@jurta.org> <85abrn9ini.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85d4wh3kf9.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcw1qht.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87lkb4t3wv.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <861wcw3s2q.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <87bqby69ut.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> <867imm21au.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190219718 22592 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2007 16:35:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Glenn Morris , larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, "Kim F. Storm" To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 19 18:35:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IY2UK-00009T-Uh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 18:33:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IY2UJ-0007iH-1n for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IY2UF-0007hm-3j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:33:15 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IY2UB-0007gt-8j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:33:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IY2UB-0007gq-34 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:33:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IY2Tx-0006bW-MU; Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:32:57 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (unknown [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66191535AF; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:32:55 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 54AB21A2E11; Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:33:43 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <867imm21au.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" (+CVS-20070621) XEmacs Lucid X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79329 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > I don't think that a large "message" will do the trick: it will > disappear too easily, and if one would instead force it to stay around > for 30 seconds or so, again, it would be quite annoying. > > I agree that it would be less obnoxious than the current variant, but > I think it is more annoying than necessary when one does not want the > information, while it is less reliable when one wants it. You could combine the two approaches, with a large message at startup and a one- or two-liner that persists for 30 seconds.