From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: message-mode is now default? Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:09:41 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <877hy5ca3u.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> References: <878wimdbzp.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87tz1av8ik.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <83r5weoz8u.fsf@gnu.org> <87hbxagh6e.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83prbxq1y7.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247994620 1692 80.91.229.12 (19 Jul 2009 09:10:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:10:20 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 11:10:13 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MSSPL-0008Mk-Mb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:10:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56893 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSSPL-0004hX-Fp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSSPF-0004hS-6q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MSSP8-0004hD-RK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41355 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MSSP8-0004hA-Np for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:54730 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MSSP7-0007S3-T7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1MSSP5-0005Bh-5c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:09:55 +0000 Original-Received: from p5b2c1e10.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.44.30.16]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:09:55 +0000 Original-Received: from dak by p5b2c1e10.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:09:55 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p5b2c1e10.dip.t-dialin.net X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:L21aSXxnJfwiWcQL/ls8X1BB8ec= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112734 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" >> Cc: Stefan Monnier , >> emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:11:05 +0900 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > There are quite a few people who use the development branch for their >> > day-to-day work. Breaking their MUA, which is by far the most >> > frequently used Emacs application, should not be done easily. >> >> Changing the default doesn't break Mail mode at all! >> >> What it does is require one who wants to use Mail mode in the >> customary way to put his cursor at the end of the following sexp and >> type C-x C-e: > > To do that, one needs to know that the defaults have changed. Not > everybody examines all the change logs each time she syncs with the > repository. I find it somewhat amusing that people act all surprised when they update daily from the Emacs trunk and suddenly something changes. That's the whole point of frequent trunk synchronizations, isn't it? -- David Kastrup