From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLogs in the elpa branch Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:02:04 +0900 Message-ID: <877h4u2nyb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87ipofdbka.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317124950 6012 80.91.229.12 (27 Sep 2011 12:02:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Albinus , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 27 14:02:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8WMg-0001wE-V8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:02:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43831 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8WMg-0006AG-6U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:02:22 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58071) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8WMZ-0006A4-4Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:02:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8WMX-0005R4-6Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:02:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:57832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8WMW-0005Q5-Ip; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 08:02:13 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2388C9707B1; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:02:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D1FE1A26F7; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:02:04 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0a1 under 21.5 (beta31) "ginger" 6c76f5b7e2e3 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144399 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 09:10, Glenn Morris wrote: > > I disagree, I think people take more care with ChangeLogs. > > I'm with Glenn again. And part of the fact is, IMO, the immediacy of > writting the commit logs. I'd bet not many people write them at a > leisurely pace before even starting the commit. That's because not many people write ChangeLogs at a leisurely pace before even starting the commit. Anyway, the right time to write log message (of either type) is before starting to code. ;-) This particular issue is easy enough to solve, though. 1. Disable the log message prompt in the vc-commit code. 2. Add -F .emacs-vc-commit-log (or whatever the equivalent is in .bzr) to the commit command (and maybe some sort of "up-to-date" check on that file). 3. Have "C-x 4 a" look for that file as well as/instead of ChangeLog, and create it (in preference to ChangeLog) if neither is found. There are some rough edges there, but once the basic idea is implemented, you'll never notice you're not writing ChangeLogs any more.