From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Tromey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CL package serious deficiencies Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:52:31 -0700 Message-ID: <877gzufzy8.fsf@fleche.redhat.com> References: <33271707.post@talk.nabble.com> <87fwemcwlx.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87zkcubbfc.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87vcnibb9t.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <87r4y6bams.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> <4F3198CE.9000900@dancol.org> <87aa4skmm1.fsf@gmx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328889184 9810 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2012 15:53:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:53:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: egnartsms@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, Emacs-devel@gnu.org, nix@esperi.org.uk, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, dancol@dancol.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Eric Schulte Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 10 16:53:02 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RvsmS-0003Tw-Nm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:53:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51552 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvsmS-00032h-9W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:53:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59467) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvsmM-00032Q-7t for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:52:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvsmI-0005Cz-82 for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:52:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:11112) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RvsmD-0005CM-NS; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:52:45 -0500 Original-Received: from int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.25]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1AFqZ4o024022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:52:35 -0500 Original-Received: from ns3.rdu.redhat.com (ns3.rdu.redhat.com [10.11.255.199]) by int-mx12.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q1AFqZ2u011144; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:52:35 -0500 Original-Received: from barimba (ovpn01.gateway.prod.ext.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.9.1]) by ns3.rdu.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q1AFqVIK016833; Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:52:31 -0500 X-Attribution: Tom In-Reply-To: <87aa4skmm1.fsf@gmx.com> (Eric Schulte's message of "Thu, 09 Feb 2012 07:23:00 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.25 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.132.183.28 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148436 Archived-At: >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Schulte writes: Eric> I assume you are referring the use of keyword arguments in the CL Eric> functions, as (to my knowledge) keyword arguments were consciously Eric> excluded from elisp and are not used elsewhere. Elisp sort of has keyword arguments. They just aren't part of the language, so they are reimplemented by hand in various functions. You can find many examples in Emacs, including even functions in C, e.g., dbus-call-method or make-network-process. Tom