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From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
To: Rand <rand.user@ymail.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: split-window as a command
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:31:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877gk7fhrs.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <loom.20130412T214228-407@post.gmane.org> (Rand's message of "Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:44:31 +0000 (UTC)")

On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 19:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Rand <rand.user@ymail.com> wrote:

> Stephen Berman <stephen.berman <at> gmx.net> writes:
>
>> The doc string of split-window says "Interactively, SIZE is the prefix
>> argument."  But in fact, invoking split-window with a prefix argument
>> has no effect, because its interactive spec is "i".  Maybe this is just
>> a doc bug, since, when split-window was still a C function, its doc
>> string said "Interactively, all arguments are nil."  But I don't see why
>> it is a command at all any more: invoked interactively, it has exactly
>> the same effect as invoking split-window-below without a prefix
>> argument, and since the latter does not ignore a prefix argument passed
>> to it, it does more than interactively called split-window.  So it
>> appears to be superfluous for split-window to be a command.  Or am I
>> overlooking something?
>
> It may be superfluous but it has always been a command and
> removing the interactive form would break existing keybindings
> and usage.

Maybe in the early days there was no split-window-vertically and
split-window was the only window-splitting command (I don't know).  But
at least since 18.59 (probably earlier) split-window has been redundant
as a command (and not documented in the Emacs manual), and has not had a
default key binding.  So any breakage would be in user settings or
third-party packages.  And the fix would simply be to add "-below" to
such occurrences of "split-window", which doesn't seem like much of a
hardship.  As for usage, since split-window never acted on a prefix
argument, replacing it with split-window-below interactively instead can
only be a win.

> I think that:
>
> * Fixing the doc-string would be better than removing the
> interactive form.

That would perpetuate its mistaken current status as a command.

> * Changing the interactive form to use the prefix argument would
> be better than fixing the doc-string.

That would mean adding code from split-window-below to process the
prefix argument, though split-window-below itself calls split-window.
That doesn't seem very clean.

It would be nice if there were a make-obsolete-command function, so
invoking split-window would warn: "This function is obsolete as a
command since 24.4; use `split-window-below' instead.

Steve Berman



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-12 23:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-12  7:58 split-window as a command Stephen Berman
2013-04-12  9:29 ` martin rudalics
2013-04-12 11:37   ` Stephen Berman
2013-04-12 14:13     ` martin rudalics
2013-04-12 19:44       ` Rand
2013-04-12 23:05         ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-12 23:31         ` Stephen Berman [this message]
2013-04-13  0:52           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-13  1:54             ` Rand User
2013-04-13  2:46               ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-13  5:45                 ` Rand User
2013-04-13  6:29                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-04-13  1:44           ` Rand User
2013-04-13  8:03             ` martin rudalics
2013-04-13  2:10         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-04-13 14:45           ` Stephen Berman

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