From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: C-x SPC : rectangle-mark-mode or gud-break? Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:34:41 +0900 Message-ID: <877gb0p7we.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <8738lo7hbz.fsf@maru2.md5i.com> <87k3f0peh0.fsf@maru2.md5i.com> <36dd5ae9-42d5-44c2-80e0-adb448d51823@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387506897 17088 80.91.229.3 (20 Dec 2013 02:34:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2013 02:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Welsh Duggan , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 20 03:35:03 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtpva-0004Oq-3v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 03:35:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47492 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtpvZ-0007oI-Mh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:35:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33234) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtpvP-0007kq-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:34:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtpvI-0008Ps-7y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:34:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:51516) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VtpvH-0008PI-UL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:34:44 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB0C970902; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:34:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D1E1136F25; Fri, 20 Dec 2013 11:34:41 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <36dd5ae9-42d5-44c2-80e0-adb448d51823@default> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166644 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: > > It's had a lot of time for people to get used to it. > > And? History matters, Drew. AFAIK you don't prefer the current binding to a rectangle function, but want the key sequence left for future use. "Reserved for future use" is not really on the table here, given a twenty-year history for one of the bindings. Not everybody is going to upgrade to the latest and greatest Emacs (eg, about 50% each of two different corporate samples I've seen, both over 200 users, used Emacsen released more than 5 years before the dates of the surveys), but they do sometimes share others' Emacsen. At least in my experience debugging sessions are more likely to end up "hands on" than coding sessions; this is a binding that matters.