From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:26:57 +0100 Message-ID: <877g9xw68u.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <52DAADFF.30009@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390077881 3424 80.91.229.3 (18 Jan 2014 20:44:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 20:44:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: grischka Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 18 21:44:50 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W4cl7-0002Cl-7L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 21:44:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44219 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4cl6-00066h-S4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:44:48 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38651) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4cl3-00063z-5F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:44:46 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4cl1-0003TF-VY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:44:45 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4cl1-0003TB-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:44:43 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59003 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W4cl1-0002bp-Fa; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 15:44:43 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3DFDAE0D91; Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:26:57 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <52DAADFF.30009@gmx.de> (grischka's message of "Sat, 18 Jan 2014 17:38:23 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:168705 Archived-At: grischka writes: > David Kastrup wrote: >> If viewed in the grand overall scheme of things, it begs the question if >> we are doing Emacs a favor by giving it the piano keyboard more people >> think they know how to work with. > > I don't think the piano keyboard is the problem. It is more the > heap of wires and buttons behind it that may look to you like an > accordion but really is a 1960s Moog vacuum tube synthesizer. More like the 1950s. Those things were called "Electronium" and part of Hohner's master plan to organize the accordionists nobody wanted to play with into "accordion orchestras". The real chutzpah here is claiming "bellows-controlled volume". Those things did not actually use the (operative) bellows as much for volume control but for cooling: the simple LC oscillators tended to have quite a bit of temperature drift. There was a hinge-and-spring mechanism basically turning the whole instrument into one clumsy volume pedal: the volume was solely determined by how much you pulled the instrument apart. Of course, this was decades before Emacs. While the concept has been dragged through several transistorized and later digital successors, the popularity has sharply declined and nowadays one sees this thing mentioned much more often in accordion orchestra scores (its sole habitat) than one actually sees it in operation. I digress. Seriously. At any rate, at that time Hohner was reasonably successful promoting CUA ("could utilize accordions") for a wide spectrum of music genres. -- David Kastrup