From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:58:55 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <877fy1j7xs.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87lhmlncb1.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <20141205193643.GB5067@thyrsus.com> <83egsd3kyi.fsf@gnu.org> <871toapbh9.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <83ppbuxgxx.fsf@gnu.org> <83mw6yxeij.fsf@gnu.org> <8761dllwds.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d27tk4j9.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sigpk3zk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87oardk1kh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87tx15hu2s.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418129982 11215 80.91.229.3 (9 Dec 2014 12:59:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 12:59:42 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 09 13:59:34 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKNy-0002D7-NB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:59:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40128 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKNy-0002e3-C2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:59:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57811) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKNp-0002dp-4E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:59:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKNh-0007So-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:59:17 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60629) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKNh-0007Sh-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 07:59:09 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XyKNg-00021p-0F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:59:08 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f4aa58.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.170.88]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:59:08 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f4aa58.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 09 Dec 2014 13:59:08 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f4aa58.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3rPCz3ABUnU/i/QW5phyL5Aeq9E= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179554 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Tue, 09 Dec 2014 03:18:54 +0100 David Kastrup wrote: > > DK> Yeah, it's too sad, all of those pages of finished documentation people > DK> have lying around that are just missing the Texinfo markup because > DK> nobody would want to overwork Eli or anybody else on the list. > > DK> Get real. Texinfo is not the excuse for not finishing documentation > DK> work, it is the excuse for not even starting it. Get rid of Texinfo, > DK> and people will find another excuse. > > I appreciate the sarcasm, but stand by my original statement that > there's a texinfo 15-30 minute ramp-up time that's annoying and puts > *me* off. You can call it an excuse if you wish. You have the offer to just write the text and leave the "rampup time" to someone else. If you don't want to call it an excuse, call it an imaginary hurdle. -- David Kastrup