From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Info replacement? Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:51:10 +0100 Message-ID: <877fxwioch.fsf_-_@gnu.org> References: <20141205123549.GA29331@thyrsus.com> <2815659.zRQ0WWWeRr@descartes> <20141205175810.GD3120@thyrsus.com> <87wq66ufyt.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87tx18vl0v.fsf@dod.no> <87iohnvh3m.fsf@dod.no> <877fy3lmm4.fsf@violet.siamics.net> <877fy3vcw4.fsf@dod.no> <87bnnab6je.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418417494 14737 80.91.229.3 (12 Dec 2014 20:51:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 12 21:51:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XzXBO-0003UO-Tm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:51:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59448 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzXBO-0004Tf-Fe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:51:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzXBH-0004RR-57 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:51:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzXBC-0004Qj-DB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:51:19 -0500 Original-Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([2a01:474::1]:46958) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XzXBC-0004QU-6B; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:51:14 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A624275; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:51:12 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id muuOmpXdgVkm; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:51:11 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from pluto (reverse-83.fdn.fr [80.67.176.83]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A83EBA2; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:51:11 +0100 (CET) X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 22 Frimaire an 223 de la =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0xEA52ECF4 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 83C4 F8E5 10A3 3B4C 5BEA D15D 77DD 95E2 EA52 ECF4 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 12 Dec 2014 11:41:58 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:474::1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:179961 Archived-At: Richard Stallman skribis: > > But HTML itself lacks the notion of indexes or cross-manual reference= s, > > for instance (cross-manual references must work both with on-line cop= ies > > and with locally installed manuals.) > > It is true that these concepts as such do not appear in the specs > of HTML. But there are ways to deal with that. > For instance, we could define a particular structure of HTML code > to represent the index of a manual. A similar hack would be needed for menus. > As for cross-manual references, can't we represent them > as links? URLs are either absolute (which would prevent use of locally-installed manuals), or relative (which would typically force manuals to be installed in same directory.) Conversely, the Info mechanism whereby manuals are looked up in a search path should be preserved, IMO. TTN proposed a new output format, IXIN, as a possible Info replacement more than a year ago: http://gnuvola.org/software/ixin/ It seems forward-looking, takes into account the strengths and shortcomings of Info; there=E2=80=99s a written spec and code to work with = it. What about considering this option when it comes to replacing Info? Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99.