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From: Oleh Krehel <ohwoeowho@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	thibaut.verron@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Use of dedicated windows in gdb-mi.el
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2015 20:50:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877fvqc1ar.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <013f998a-bd26-4938-9112-30a2e95e8dc4@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:44:15 -0800 (PST)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> >> I dislike non-soft dedicated windows because they're bad design.
>> >
>> > What's the bad design about having such a possibility?
>> 
>> You have a window. You switched to it explicitly. You want to change the
>> buffer that's in it, but you can't.
>
> If you want to change the buffer that's in the window, then you don't
> want a (normally) dedicated window.
>
> That doesn't imply bad design.  It just says that you did something
> (made the window dedicated) that you didn't want to do.  You shot
> yourself in the foot.  That's just bad aim on the part of the pilot.

I just issued "r" in `gdb', nothing else. Zero customizations and a
dedicated *output* popped up.

>
>> To top it off, it looks exactly the same all the other windows, 99.5% of
>> which that don't behave this way.
>
> Not for me, it doesn't.  I use options `special-display-frame-alist',
> `special-display-buffer-names', and `special-display-regexps'.
>
> *Messages* corresponds to my value of `special-display-regexps', which
> is ("[ ]?[*][^*]+[*]").  As such, it gets a different background color
> from my non-special frames.
>
>> Add even on top that it wasn't you who explicitly specified this
>> behavior for your window. This behavior was simply loaded from a
>> package.
>
> Blame that one on the package.  If that's true, and it that behavior
> is hard-coded and not user-configurable, then THAT is bad design.

The patch earlier in the thread attempts to make it user-configurable
instead of hard-coded.




  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-09 19:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-06 18:02 Use of dedicated windows in gdb-mi.el Oleh Krehel
2015-02-06 19:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-06 19:14   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-06 21:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09  9:19       ` Thibaut Verron
2015-02-09 14:29         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-09 14:50           ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 15:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:42           ` martin rudalics
2015-02-09 15:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 15:57           ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 17:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 17:22               ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 17:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:11                   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:26                     ` Drew Adams
2015-02-09 18:39                       ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:48                           ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:00                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:44                         ` Drew Adams
2015-02-09 19:50                           ` Oleh Krehel [this message]
2015-02-09 20:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:09                               ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:33                                   ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 20:44                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 20:46                                       ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-10 15:42                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10  2:20                             ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-10  3:48                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-10  6:39                                 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-10 15:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 18:53                       ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 18:58                       ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-09 19:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-09 19:47                           ` Oleh Krehel
     [not found]                   ` <<8761bb9cq8.fsf@gmail.com>
     [not found]                     ` <<83zj8m9atc.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-02-09 20:42                       ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-24 17:56 Glenn Brown
2015-02-24 18:02 ` Oleh Krehel
2015-02-24 18:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-24 22:23   ` Paul Eggert
2015-02-25  3:46     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-02-25  3:57     ` Stefan Monnier
2015-02-25  6:09       ` Glenn Brown
2015-02-10  0:49 Barry OReilly
2015-02-10 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found] <<87h9uynckc.fsf@gmail.com>

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