From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A better UI than perform-replace Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 02:42:16 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <877fldsdqv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <56480D6C.2080408@yandex.ru> <876112xj2i.fsf@gmail.com> <87vb90yum7.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87egfl6acs.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4153be56-d881-4e31-a28e-e11f0333bacd@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447980327 28385 80.91.229.3 (20 Nov 2015 00:45:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2015 00:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel , David Kastrup , Dmitry Gutov , Oleh Krehel , John Yates To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 20 01:45:18 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzZpC-0001vf-1p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2015 01:45:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44798 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzZpB-0007aO-9A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:45:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54988) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzZp6-0007Rm-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:45:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzZp5-0001AY-6m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:45:08 -0500 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:45339 helo=homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZzZp1-0000zI-90; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 19:45:03 -0500 Original-Received: from homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C50E117E06C; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 16:45:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (82.131.20.219.cable.starman.ee [82.131.20.219]) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E413A117E065; Thu, 19 Nov 2015 16:44:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4153be56-d881-4e31-a28e-e11f0333bacd@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 19 Nov 2015 14:03:29 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-Received-From: 69.163.253.7 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:194842 Archived-At: > And as David points out, even if you do not check `C-h k M-%', > the prompt itself tells you, over and over, that you can > "press `?' for help". How someone could claim that the > behavior is difficult to discover is beyond me. (But people > are different.) If "press `?' for help" is intended for newbies, why do we display it all the time? The same question is about customization of "[F1] Help" in Isearch proposed by Artur in http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Isearch-prompt-proposal where we need to hide the reminder after its first use too.