From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Lisp's future Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:08:22 +0200 Message-ID: <877f9ex189.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87wq97i78i.fsf@earlgrey.lan> <86k2dk77w6.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <642fd4b4-8b1c-a537-5a5f-6940691ec4b9@gmail.com> <861szo4zgq.fsf@gko.net> <86wphg2tpk.fsf@gko.net> <87eg3nwmu4.fsf@mbork.pl> <9707a440-fb03-9d0c-11f7-7bfe6cbebb6c@gmail.com> <87d1j7we20.fsf@mbork.pl> <4cd72094-babe-e918-ab5f-49226731164d@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476205787 16654 195.159.176.226 (11 Oct 2016 17:09:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2016 17:09:47 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 26.0.50.1 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 11 19:09:42 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bu0YY-00031m-Pg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:09:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57070 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bu0YX-00012B-CK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:09:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33221) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bu0XK-000101-Nd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bu0XF-0003sO-Ir for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:08:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:35353) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bu0XF-0003s5-CA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:08:13 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D43E6890; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:08:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mDyx2oeLP7b5; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:08:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (static-dwadziewiec-jedenpiec7.echostar.pl [109.232.29.157]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 76BADE64AF; Tue, 11 Oct 2016 19:08:10 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <4cd72094-babe-e918-ab5f-49226731164d@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 195.110.48.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:208163 Archived-At: On 2016-10-11, at 15:33, Cl=C3=A9ment Pit--Claudel wrote: >>> Bottom line: I don't see much use for proper namespaces :) >>=20 >> That's only true to some extent. Both names and nameless packages (ev= en >> though I really appreciate them) are really prosthetics; I'd have to >> check it, but how do they behave with tools like xref-find-definitions= , >> edebug, lispy and others? I'm pretty sure that names won't cooperate >> with them nicely (I vaguely remember trying, though I'm not sure), I'd >> have to check nameless. > > I never used names. Nameless works entirely fine with all of the tools= you mentioned, because it only touches font-locking. Cool to hear that. I guess I'll have to start using it. Best, --=20 Marcin Borkowski