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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:209639 Archived-At: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > > Advantages: > > - we still have an autogenerated file in the repo, but it is very much > smaller (160 lines vs 40k). > > Disadvantages: > > - generating ldefs-boot-auto is a lot slower (i.e. cp loaddefs.el > ldefs-boot.el vs a complete bootstrap build of Emacs). > > Invariants: > > - to my testing there is negligable difference in build time. I've added another commit to this now which hopefully fixes the references to ldefs-boot.el, replacing them or generalizing them as appropriate. update_autogen has not been done, and I am unsure about it. The main disadvantage with my patch is that it needs a full bootstrap to regenerate. Do we want this in update_autogen or not?