From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What improvements would be truly useful? Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:49:06 +0100 Message-ID: <877eqn3931.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87inaiss6l.fsf@web.de> <6FCF6ACA-4F29-4B6B-BE9D-D7130C6E9495@gnu.org> <87fu5moe4c.fsf@web.de> <877eqyocro.fsf@web.de> <83zi3uz4nb.fsf@gnu.org> <0b1dd3fa-e0b0-ed20-a256-dd92d1c1826f@dancol.org> <8bc3c4c7-dfc7-987a-95e7-bd309e2326c6@cs.ucla.edu> <03118DC0-39DA-4AB5-980E-A33809B9A5EE@raeburn.org> <83sh9es8jw.fsf@gnu.org> <2cdaa88f-f31e-e05c-a940-d83e25c9c167@dancol.org> <87muzlt1mr.fsf@mbork.pl> <83k1upq70l.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1upszs3.fsf@mbork.pl> <83efkvrep8.fsf@gnu.org> <878tb33fio.fsf@mbork.pl> <83po4fptin.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1520455675 17769 195.159.176.226 (7 Mar 2018 20:47:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 20:47:55 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: mu4e 1.1.0; emacs 27.0.50 Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, raeburn@raeburn.org, dancol@dancol.org, rostislav.svoboda@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 07 21:47:50 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1etfyO-0002WG-Mt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:47:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35566 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etg0Q-0003SA-HV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:49:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etg0H-0003Rk-AP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:49:38 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etg0G-00056H-Cw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:49:37 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:48565) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1etg0B-00054o-Qu; Wed, 07 Mar 2018 15:49:31 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03877E670E; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 21:49:30 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dqWNYNmRu7jj; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 21:49:20 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (static-dwadziewiec-jedenpiec7.echostar.pl [109.232.29.157]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3D84E670A; Wed, 7 Mar 2018 21:49:19 +0100 (CET) In-reply-to: <83po4fptin.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.110.48.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:223431 Archived-At: On 2018-03-07, at 20:36, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Marcin Borkowski >> Cc: rms@gnu.org, dancol@dancol.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, raeburn@raeburn.org, rostislav.svoboda@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2018 19:30:07 +0100 >> >> >> > Are you saying that either of these is a WYSIWYG word processor? >> >> >> >> Did Richard mention WYSIWYG word processing or just word processing? >> > >> > WYSIWYG, of course. Otherwise it would make no sense to talk about >> > indentation with variable-pitch fonts and pixel-level justification. >> >> Have you ever seen LyX? > > What would it add to the current discussion? Next to nothing, except that variable-pitch fonts and pixel-level justification do not imply WYSIWYG. Personally, I don't care for the idea of having a word processor on top of Emacs, although I admit that it might be interesting. I think the resources to do that could be better spent elsewhere. But if someone wants to do it - I have nothing against it. I might even start to use such an application. Best, -- Marcin Borkowski http://mbork.pl