From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 3b4e312: Improve documentation around standard error pipes (Bug#35328). 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:235801 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Eli Zaretskii writes: Hi Eli, >> I don't know whether we shall document this different behavior, or >> whether we shall find an implementation in Tramp for what is >> described. For the latter, I would need help, as said. Or at least ideas. > > I think we should at least qualify the above description with its > being accurate for local processes only. Like this? --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-patch Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *** /tmp/ediffEO055I 2019-04-23 09:08:54.501926412 +0200 =2D-- /home/albinus/src/emacs/doc/lispref/processes.texi 2019-04-23 09:05:= 04.977767519 +0200 *************** *** 734,740 **** Depending on the implementation of the file name handler, it might not be possible to apply @var{filter} or @var{sentinel} to the resulting ! process object. @xref{Filter Functions}, and @ref{Sentinels}. Some file name handlers may not support @code{make-process}. In such cases, this function does nothing and returns @code{nil}. =2D-- 734,743 ---- Depending on the implementation of the file name handler, it might not be possible to apply @var{filter} or @var{sentinel} to the resulting ! process object. The @code{:stderr} argument cannot be a pipe; if it ! is a buffer a different implementation will be used to show the buffer ! contents. @xref{Filter Functions}, @ref{Sentinels}, and ! @ref{Accepting Output}. Some file name handlers may not support @code{make-process}. In such cases, this function does nothing and returns @code{nil}. *************** *** 1908,1913 **** =2D-- 1911,1919 ---- (while (accept-process-output stderr-process)) @end example + Reading pending standard error from a process running on a remote host + is not possible this way. + @node Processes and Threads @subsection Processes and Threads @cindex processes, threads --=-=-=--