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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:237127 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Stefan Monnier writes: > > Can we say that macros are "expanded in the global environment", or > > Sounds good. Ok, I installed this: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-doc-misc-cl.texi-Macro-Bindings-Add-a-detail.patch Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =46rom 997ac9f829059bf37c81fd586910c834394951e6 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Michael Heerdegen Date: Thu, 23 May 2019 03:33:04 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] * doc/misc/cl.texi (Macro Bindings): Add a detail Say that calls of 'cl-macrolet' bound macros are expanded in the global environment. =2D-- doc/misc/cl.texi | 3 ++- 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/doc/misc/cl.texi b/doc/misc/cl.texi index eb06791ba9..ee73c65b78 100644 =2D-- a/doc/misc/cl.texi +++ b/doc/misc/cl.texi @@ -1359,7 +1359,8 @@ Macro Bindings scoped. The @code{cl-macrolet} binding will affect only calls that appear physically within the body @var{forms}, possibly after expansion of other macros in the -body. +body. Calls of @code{cl-macrolet} bound macros are expanded in the +global environment. @end defmac @defmac cl-symbol-macrolet (bindings@dots{}) forms@dots{} =2D- 2.20.1 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain > A separate @node about when macro expansion can take place and what > environment it can rely on would be welcome. That would be good, yes, though, I will probably not be the one writing it. Thanks, Michael. --=-=-=--