From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2020 14:49:25 +0200 Message-ID: <877dwk1hre.fsf@logand.com> References: <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> <833679boji.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgf9a6rb.fsf@gnu.org> <87d06dv689.fsf@logand.com> <83o8pxa05z.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="89547"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 06 14:50:40 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jhYHY-000NED-M8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2020 14:50:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52610 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhYHX-0002M1-Nc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:50:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36866) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhYGY-0001fH-8R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:49:38 -0400 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:37552) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhYGX-00033f-CQ; Sat, 06 Jun 2020 08:49:37 -0400 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 595C11ACD9A; Sat, 6 Jun 2020 14:49:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: <83o8pxa05z.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/06/06 08:47:17 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251950 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > See window-text-pixel-size as one example of what we have. The >> > underlying functionality is even more powerful. >> >> (window-text-pixel-size) returns nonsense in console. > > It does? Can you show an example? Or, better yet, make a bug report > about the problematic case(s)? bug report sent >> >> > We already can display such thin lines, see, for example, help-fns.el >> >> > (search for ":height"). No X-level graphics is needed. >> >> X graphics is seems to be needed. > > You need a GUI frame (not necessarily on X), but that's all. There's > no need to expose Xlib calls to Lisp, which was what the original > question was about. ok, thanks for clarification