From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Modernize frame-title-format: "%b - GNU Emacs" Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2020 15:35:51 +0100 Message-ID: <877dtkp35k.fsf@yandex.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: , Stefan Kangas , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ams@gnu.org (Alfred M. Szmidt) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 16:37:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kBJ26-0005oG-0h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 16:37:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36948 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBJ25-0002NS-2m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:37:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBJ0V-000070-Mp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:36:03 -0400 Original-Received: from forward105p.mail.yandex.net ([77.88.28.108]:59817) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kBJ0S-0005Js-8o; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 10:36:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mxback2g.mail.yandex.net (mxback2g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:163]) by forward105p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id DEB5A4D40589; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 17:35:53 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from myt5-aad1beefab42.qloud-c.yandex.net (myt5-aad1beefab42.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c12:128:0:640:aad1:beef]) by mxback2g.mail.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id Ns56KDMvSC-ZrLicFvj; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 17:35:53 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1598538953; bh=xRvhP1oloJjAXjTDQQC3pJIy02lO+g0ICpSJKQqaW78=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Cc:Cc:Date:References:Message-ID; b=oSHifwrHa24FpYfIgm3aQdl0Ph8JbqAZx7emIONgKIC1/h7xN8Cix88pFAMZNaABs xUTYFcB4BayxNfsgcRPIhL9wSEWOc8fCkO5YXi8r6uK5rN1zXxX+tFY2gk73zfgIRD d+wTgcx5XmOJR/7vfRKegZDlVam9tT02GehKJFNE= Authentication-Results: mxback2g.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Original-Received: by myt5-aad1beefab42.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id Ipm6I35PVN-Zqluf27l; Thu, 27 Aug 2020 17:35:52 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T In-Reply-To: (Alfred M. Szmidt's message of "Thu, 27 Aug 2020 04:00:36 -0400") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAGQAAAAeBAMAAAAodabAAAAAB3RJTUUH1wQdAAY04/L8hgAA AAlwSFlzAAAewQAAHsEBw2lUUwAAAARnQU1BAACxjwv8YQUAAAASUExURc7OzpwAAAAAAP////8A AGNj/2aqqTQAAAA8SURBVHjaYzA2NnEBAmdj01D8wNgYpM7F2JiBgYFREAgEGJiU8AMGBpA6QaCG UVtGbRm1ZdSWUVsGjS0Aq20lJnMawnkAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=77.88.28.108; envelope-from=m43cap@yandex.com; helo=forward105p.mail.yandex.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/08/27 10:35:54 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254294 Archived-At: Dear Alfred, >>>>> Alfred M Szmidt writes: I am pleased you have raised concerns about the proposed change in the title-bar. I very much agree with you. We already have a functioning title bar, without the need for further configuring, which gives not useful information but essential information. I suggest that is the purpose of the tile bar - it is not to look pretty. If it's thought that "most users" only use emacs on a single host then tramp ought to be moved from emacs core and made an optional package! Colin Baxter URL: http://www.Colin-Baxter.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- GnuPG fingerprint: 68A8 799C 0230 16E7 BF68 2A27 BBFA 2492 91F5 41C8 ---------------------------------------------------------------------