From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rethinking the design of xwidgets Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:32:55 +0200 Message-ID: <877drtqn2w.fsf@logand.com> References: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> <835z7e2ouj.fsf@gnu.org> <86v9fet5sg.fsf@akirakyle.com> <87o8l6geh1.fsf@logand.com> <86h7qxu8ko.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2569"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 09:36:53 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSbLB-0000ZV-JP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:36:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44184 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSbLA-00011d-FZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 03:36:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51720) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSbHS-0004To-MP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 03:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:33536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSbHQ-0005VQ-IC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 03:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D332319FCD8; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:32:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: <86h7qxu8ko.fsf@gmail.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/14 03:32:58 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257617 Archived-At: On Tue 13 Oct 2020 at 15:20, Aiko Kyle wrote: > I don't immediately see the connection of this proposal to > mine. I am questioning your need for dynamic modules. I am questioning your need for xwidgets. Both have issues and don't go in the right direction of solving the real problem. Your proposal will be a niche solution not useable for many emacs users. You are adressing your specific problem with your specific solution. I am trying to say that the real problem is that there is a general need for some kind of low-level drawing layer (some call it canvas, some pdfterm, call it whatever you want).