From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Adam Porter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [ELPA] Want to submit two packages "ilist" and "blist" Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 11:43:53 -0500 Message-ID: <877dfc8qie.fsf@alphapapa.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14846"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 19 18:45:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzw4-0003bh-UF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:45:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44598 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzw3-0002EU-Rb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:44:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44260) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzvE-0001aE-9m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:44:08 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:52630) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzvC-0000aA-NE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:44:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mRzvA-0002ZK-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Sep 2021 18:44:04 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:275063 Archived-At: Durand writes: > The two packages can be found via the following links: > > > By the way, I see in ilist.el this comment: ;; This is similar to using `cl-defstruct', but this struct is so ;; simple that depending on the cl library seems unnecessary to me. You may not know that `cl' has been part of Emacs for over 30 years. It's curious why some users seem to have an aversion to it. Somehow there's this persistent myth that using it in a library would be not minimalistic enough, yet cl-lib is used by Emacs's own code, so it's loaded anyway, and its code is standard and reliable. So rather than defining a number of aliases for a bespoke list format like: ;;;; column accessors (defalias 'ilist-column-name 'car "Return the NAME of COLUMN. \(fn COLUMN)") (defalias 'ilist-column-fun 'cadr "Return the FUN in COLUMN. \(fn COLUMN)") (defalias 'ilist-column-min 'caddr "Return the MIN in COLUMN. \(fn COLUMN)") (defalias 'ilist-column-max 'cadddr "Return the MAX in COLUMN. \(fn COLUMN)") ;; Unfortunately (or not) there is no caddddr and cadddddr. (defun ilist-column-align (column) "Return the ALIGN in COLUMN." (nth 4 column)) (defun ilist-column-elide (column) "Return the ELIDE in COLUMN." (nth 5 column)) It would be much more efficient and simple to just use cl-defstruct.