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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281389 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >> I briefly tested with two contemporary editors (Atom and VS Code), and >> their behavior indeed differs between mouse-based and keyboard-based >> scrolling: in the former case (scrolling via mouse), the cursor stays >> put and moves out of view, while in the latter case (scrolling via the >> PgDn key), the cursor changes position to stay on screen. > > Linux console supported keyboard-based scrolling with Shift-PageDown/Page= Up > where the cursor stays on the command line and it scrolls back on a key p= ress, > but recently this feature was removed. Off-topic: I noticed it in the linux console recently. Is there a workaround? Thanks. --=20 Andr=C3=A9 A. Gomes "Free Thought, Free World"