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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: `unreadablep'
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 19:39:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877dc6t7vl.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877dc6qft0.fsf@yahoo.com>

Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:

>> Do you imply that `print-unreadable-function' should return the new
>> value to be printed? If so, it is indeed more flexible. Passing the
>> unreadable value to the function would also be useful (e.g. we can print
>> buffer file name instead of buffer object).
>
> It would accept a function that is called to print characters, like the
> `printcharfun' argument to prin1.

I was confused by the name. `printcharfun' in prin1 can be a buffer, a
marker, etc. Doing the same for the `print-unreadable-function' makes it
tricky to implement. How does `print-unreadable-function' print into a
buffer or marker? It would be cumbersome to consider all such cases if
the user simply wants to print nil in place of unreadable objects.

If the `printcharfun' passed to `print-unreadable-function' is strictly
an ordinary function that does actual printing, I can see a problem with
circular objects. Consider something like
(#1=a #<unreadable> #2=b #1 #1 #2).
If the main print loop is not aware of what was printed by
`print-unreadable-function' and the function tries to print reference to
b, we may get incorrect object:
(#1=a b #2=b #1 #1 #2)
The object printed instead of unreadable value will break circular
structure.

Of course, the described problem will depend on the details of
implementation.

Best,
Ihor



  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-15 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-15  7:49 `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15  8:19 ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15  8:35   ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15  9:42     ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 11:16       ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 11:25         ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:19           ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 12:22             ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:35               ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 12:42                 ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:44                   ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 12:46                     ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:51                       ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 12:58                       ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 12:36               ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 12:37                 ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 17:00     ` [External] : `unreadablep' Drew Adams
2021-12-15  8:35 ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15  9:51   ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 10:20     ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 10:21       ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 10:21       ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 10:36         ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 10:44           ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 11:12             ` `unreadablep' Ihor Radchenko
2021-12-15 11:16               ` `unreadablep' Po Lu
2021-12-15 11:39                 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2021-12-15 14:12 ` `unreadablep' Stefan Monnier
2021-12-16  5:48   ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-16  8:03     ` `unreadablep' Eli Zaretskii
2021-12-17  7:18       ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-16 15:35     ` `unreadablep' Qiantan Hong
2021-12-17  7:19       ` `unreadablep' Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-12-15 15:32 ` `unreadablep' Steingold
2021-12-15 16:04   ` `unreadablep' Qiantan Hong
2021-12-15 16:09 ` `unreadablep' Steingold
2021-12-15 20:21 ` `unreadablep' Philipp Stephani

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