From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Contradictiory directions Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:52:23 +0100 Message-ID: <877dc6mhjc.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20211211035614.15517.53830@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87ee6j4ty4.fsf@yahoo.com> <8735mz4o70.fsf@yahoo.com> <83k0gbr0dm.fsf@gnu.org> <87y24r33bn.fsf@yahoo.com> <87ilvu1ldh.fsf@yahoo.com> <87a6h5tap6.fsf@gnus.org> <87tufbu7jg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87y24nr6nk.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf0ntz0t.fsf@yahoo.com> <87wnk6mjlm.fsf@gnus.org> <877dc6tjz0.fsf_-_@yahoo.com> <87k0g6mivu.fsf@gnus.org> <87y24ms4jj.fsf@yahoo.com> <87fsqumi16.fsf@gnus.org> <87tufas40e.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33389"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Richard Stallman , stefankangas@gmail.com To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 15 09:16:33 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxPSi-0008T0-7S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:16:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58172 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxPSg-0001D2-RJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 03:16:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:53152) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxP5V-0003Xa-5s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:52:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=39668 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mxP5T-0002VR-Lx; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 02:52:32 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=9kOQWyXxDVfCTGRWhos4a7LvNGk3Xovn63rkbADqjbE=; b=k6/lgKuU6qI13l7ne9fqnd5nbH z5J4W1XSm0rK94rSGsHXgj5iBR/HLsbLZgSJhqzCUWtXYOrPlBAy8qGFRoNXNiN9zdFhIG29OgXNW V0jY9g3JNqsiMHyiD9R3jAo16TlMdnvywzQhV9hnWJNYXP+76RpexqvgLBV3vOjglzMM=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mxP5M-0002uA-7r; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:52:26 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAElBMVEWwjWtxQT+fUEzR saT49O3///+dfHtVAAAAAWJLR0QF+G/pxwAAAAd0SU1FB+UMDwcUDUKeYKsAAAGRSURBVDjLfZIB YsMgCEUVcwDjLqCYAzjJAbra+59pH026dHWjasUX+BFizNzs5Cz+CcIUUB8TYEeyWao/xKPxhjtI 66t1/wrC9YmowNvoiWMki10ICe4AkZA4es82Ugwp2XQCNjjpgA2nlNgPDZ+sPwAZZmtPECydIJg4 wKnBAIGtD0j1AsyIQApP11Ts8VZhTWHlAHUOIwJ30xbQccFQjwtCT2tUMB3DPghhAK4smOIUiC7L Ud3FCKzgZ5w0pw6eEgVwdjhiFvzvpWHfToABkR5cMOBCQ4aw6TtXXjpYZq0dYuUdPNTktIfsD9GT rwEu1nZxUyCtIWoCbjidgdaPO3gK672xtNykA+JXs8wr728g6Vx5+TKNcl3yPW+u1lxdZKoun2B3 krdM91wkW1vNAJxZsuScuWZUhy6Aar4BUN3QSbpXOUCstx4BwAD1AA/Sjg+Qn6C/LsSlg09Vq/Ve tg4YX+LWXI5cI0sspOIKbOKohS7jpqGvPZUxWjpFPwXYf1VXK4mOYH3vx2H/AJnb5zdoRIS3tuUh TAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMS0xMi0xNVQwNzoyMDoxMyswMDowMC/FjEoAAAAldEVY dGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTItMTVUMDc6MjA6MTMrMDA6MDBemDT2AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Scritti Politti's _Cupid & Psyche 85_: "Wood Beez" In-Reply-To: <87tufas40e.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Wed, 15 Dec 2021 15:48:01 +0800") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281985 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: >> It is impossible to disallow such a thing, so I'm not sure what your >> point is. > > It's bad to distribute a version of Emacs capable of such a thing. Uhm... then it's bad, I guess? Since all versions of Emacs have been, since the very first one, capable of that. >>> If so, it is certainly a standard I don't know about. In nearly three >>> decades, I've heard many variants of "list", but never "allowlist" or >>> "blocklist". Can we agree to use the terminology that everyone knows >>> about in Emacs, to keep the situation simple? > >> Seems simple enough to me. > > So we agree to use the existing terms "whitelist" and "blacklist" then? > LGTM, thanks! We're using the existing terms allowlist/blocklist. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no