From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patches for elpa-admin Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2022 15:44:27 +0000 Message-ID: <877d7q9wro.fsf@posteo.net> References: <874k2x8jhb.fsf@posteo.net> <87czhiddc7.fsf@posteo.net> <87lew61ixz.fsf@ditto.jhoto.spork.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7668"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Brian Cully Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 15 17:46:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfO9D-0001mY-7y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:46:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfO9C-0000Ar-1f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:46:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfO7d-0007vF-SA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:44601) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfO7b-0007de-Sq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B66D3240026 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:44:29 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1650037469; bh=0BWSkBFZAvJAipauWMI32v4Kb34GrFsOdKDsrcJeROY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=Y1HtTmMQ0WhiIbHCZM3stTeMVKTVvxTmeIRveLca2e9Es3AGGnLyC0VaA4mkcZEC7 EDhagwfrni0iPt8F6MRIo6AdQCfdUAM/IRPE526b+4WDGldnaPc6o5iKcildsdotor yFY9yvL0GKtnNmhtXKCJsdaAySmb8ykn/dROBD8ent8RCKOEQ+WKXHWFTKXQSQBjgL vFayB94IIpgiVR8aJpVcH6ZS3TUYrWR4JxPVzXYzI+hloQV1+pm2N/RmA40ZVmpzOW 6K1P7qFEkAkOjiP9ZRG9lgdr6IhH/KVRT0WDPiFZCE89cyVmWhKKxrX6BZ0JYReIUY jOv+USQqyFjGA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Kg0xm2XFYz9rxL; Fri, 15 Apr 2022 17:44:28 +0200 (CEST) Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB In-Reply-To: <87lew61ixz.fsf@ditto.jhoto.spork.org> (Brian Cully's message of "Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:05:53 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288446 Archived-At: Brian Cully writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >>> I have actually been looking into implementing a TRAMP backend that >>> would tunnel all communication through a Guix shell. I think in that >>> case Flymake should be able to make use of that. >> >> That sounds nice. We'd need a solution that can be made to work >> "everywhere", so the API should be sufficiently generic that it can make >> use of various sandboxing systems. > > I would love a system that can handle this in a > container-agnostic manner. The primary wrinkle I can see right now is > that while =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 will happily spin up and use an e= nvironment from > scratch, other containers treat those as separate steps (eg, FreeBSD > jails need to be installed on disk before a =E2=80=98jexec=E2=80=99 can b= e issued in > them). > > I suppose, even Guix needs to have a manifest of some sort to > run =E2=80=98guix shell=E2=80=99 against, which is /sort of/ like the ins= tall phase of > jails, if you squint hard enough. Not necessarily, you can just list the packages you need when starting the shell $ type markdown bash: type: markdown: not found $ guix shell markdown [env] $ which markdown markdown is /gnu/store/... The question is if this requires some separate infrastructure, of if container support can be supported via TRAMP (e.g. like https://github.com/emacs-pe/docker-tramp.el does for Docker). > -bjc --=20 Philip Kaludercic