From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey 2022 - design Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 18:59:17 +0000 Message-ID: <877d6kvvcq.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19393"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Timothy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 17 21:02:31 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nr2Si-0004ln-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 21:02:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54570 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr2Sh-00074M-Mi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 15:02:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59696) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr2Pp-0004kH-KR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 14:59:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]:44275) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nr2Pn-0000qv-Iq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 May 2022 14:59:29 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3A6F240107 for ; Tue, 17 May 2022 20:59:23 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1652813963; bh=lh7xMAUHUSO+4TlCHIah+sGjQQR2JCgA9NKolBOOs1c=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Autocrypt:Date:From; b=ZHFDowpRenSRFC2czaUJOMNcAynDshDd7WT3ncPu9w2bUCT+hJd5XpPin+zr6gAwZ XqPIwyITJWA/CrADuAEiPTRJg3QSptya84PeLWBWKPDwBsClf3t61cv+l6qrwUKO8e LeTLp7e4KPndyWF6fPQbX/Oc3geH9k4J5+qH2rjkwmmaUEnMHZpkAtfPrUBY6IGRYk GyuSlcONwTgEr8jSrvuMfkAj+rpjCaJnYLeaIvbqBf7q6tGmmqfcKc9/vShZMC1Fxt 14AL5JcjKIAZyiuGbAMjuANKEHTLByghjciKAm8Zcg6of275RqklBTUDfRAsPQ3ZZa 5plBIscqqrf2w== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4L2llt2JXXz6tmp; Tue, 17 May 2022 20:59:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Hashcash: 1:20:220517:tecosaur@gmail.com::rsVC6ZS36pQndlg9:00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000HGP X-Hashcash: 1:20:220517:emacs-devel@gnu.org::rEBmyMHD1sEV6m3I:0000000000000000000000000000000000000000002x2S Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; prefer-encrypt=nopreference; keydata= mDMEYHHqUhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAp3GdmYJ6tm5McweY6dEvIYIiry+Oz9rU4MH6NHWK0Ee0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiQBBMWCAA4FiEEDM2H44ZoPt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwMFCwkIBwIGFQoJ CAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQtVrAHPRh1FyTkgEAjlbGPxFchvMbxzAES3r8QLuZgCxeAXunM9gh io0ePtUBALVhh9G6wIoZhl0gUCbQpoN/UJHI08Gm1qDob5zDxnIHuDgEYHHqUhIKKwYBBAGXVQEF AQEHQNcRB+MUimTMqoxxMMUERpOR+Q4b1KgncDZkhrO2ql1tAwEIB4h4BBgWCAAgFiEEDM2H44Zo Pt9Ms0eHtVrAHPRh1FwFAmBx6lICGwwACgkQtVrAHPRh1Fw1JwD/Qo7kvtib8jy7puyWrSv0MeTS g8qIxgoRWJE/KKdkCLEA/jb9b9/g8nnX+UcwHf/4VfKsjExlnND3FrBviXUW6NcB In-Reply-To: <87ee0sb3by.fsf@gmail.com> (Timothy's message of "Tue, 17 May 2022 22:51:14 +0800") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289869 Archived-At: Great to see another survey being organised! Looking through the questions I'd like to note the following: - Add "College" to who introduced someone to Emacs - Add NonGNU ELPA to the package repositories - The list of favourite packages should not mandatory - The built-in themes should be added to the theme list - The terminal emulator question should be rephrased "how do you use a shell within emacs", though this is nit-picking - Email clients should also have Rmail, Mew and MH - Perhaps a question on what spell checking programmes are used - I think adding vundo to the undo package list would be nice (points like these should also be presented with some explanation, because I can imagine a lot of users don't even know about these packages to begin with) - A general comment on the "My framework/starter kit's default". Will you be able to infer what they use, from the framework or is this just a vauge option? - Perhaps mention fido-mode in the "selection" package - Are the "gender" and "nationality" questions necessary? I can imagine that the former one can cause a lot of complaints (especially when there is no "I'd prefer not to say") option. - Are the "other" option plain text fields or a kind of "none of the above"?