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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293643 Archived-At: >>>>> On Fri, 19 Aug 2022 17:04:04 +0300, Eli Zaretskii said: >> From: Stefan Kangas >> Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2022 06:55:27 -0700 >>=20 >> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >>=20 >> > Bikeshed welcome about the names, though. I considered `point-bol= ', for >> > instance, but that's very similar to `point-at-bol' (which is an a= lias >> > for `line-beginning-position'). >>=20 >> How about `point-bol' (while making `point-at-bol' obsolete to avoid >> confusion)? Eli> How about position-at-bol or pos-at-bol? Eli> (IMO, it's confusing to talk about "point at SOMEWHERE" because th= at's Eli> not how we use the term "point", except in the context of describi= ng Eli> point's position.) I agree. "point" is "here", it=CA=BCs not at eol/bol unless it=CA=BCs moved there. We=CA=BCre talking about the characteristics of what=CA=BCs at the beginnin= g/end of the line, which suggests `position-of-bol' and `position-of-eol' (or even `pos-of-bol'). Robert --=20