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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID e388b186546b39d4faa321900471c8ab; Sun, 21 Aug 2022 11:44:27 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 21 Aug 2022 14:19:11 +0300") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20560 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.185.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic305-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:293689 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > Is that a new state of affairs, caused by newer GTK version or changes > in Emacs? The bug at hand is a new state of affairs caused by the Emacs migration to XInput 2, which has exposed new bugs in GTK. In general, however, GTK support for X11 has become steadily worse since 3.4. > If not, the GTK3 build has been pretty stable for a lot of us, so > there's no point in deprecating it over an unusual use case. Or even a > bunch of them. It's not being deprecated, just being demoted from the default. Disabling the trackpad while typing is hardly an "unusual" use-case, and even comes enabled by default on many systems.