Re: icon-title-format vs. frame-title-format (Bug#61496)

["Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>]

Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> writes:

> Tobias Bading <tbading@web.de> writes:
>
>> On 04.05.23 02:12, Po Lu wrote:
>>>>     The title of iconified or minimized frames is determined by
>>>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>> X does not use the term ``minimized''.  We prefer just
>>> ``iconified''.
>>
>> I’m afraid “we” includes me — because I’m old. So old in fact that I
>> (barely) remember mwm being able to turn top-level windows into icons
>> and back. Those were the days… ;-)
>>
>> But I don’t actually remember the last window manager I used that used
>> this
>> feature. Might actually have been mwm. The last decade or so GNOME 2
>> and
>> then MATE minimized my windows into the Window List panel applet. So I
>> can
>> see the window’s title changing when it is minimized or restored,
>> which is a
>> rather uncommon “feature” in this desktop environment.
>>
>> PS: there’s also “shaded” these days… :-p
>
> These are all reported under the Iconic state, and as such that is the
> terminology we use in Emacs.
>
> So let's please not use the term "minimize".  Thanks.

What's wrong with saying "iconified or minimized"?

IIRC a few years ago there was on this list some acknowledgment of the
problems posed by using obsolete terminology in Emacs and some actions
were discussed to converge to modern wording up to some extent.

Rejecting "___ or minimized" on the docs only works nowadays if the goal
is obfuscating things.