From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Indentation and gc Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 10:00:28 +0000 Message-ID: <877cs3k9qb.fsf@localhost> References: <20230310110747.4hytasakomvdyf7i.ref@Ergus> <20230311111730.fatow74xnbel7t3f@Ergus> <83o7ozwju8.fsf@gnu.org> <87jzznwjh3.fsf@localhost> <83jzznwjeh.fsf@gnu.org> <87fsabwirg.fsf@localhost> <83h6urwhu0.fsf@gnu.org> <875yb7wgpd.fsf@localhost> <83bkkzwgcp.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1o3v1fr.fsf@localhost> <838rg3wf7k.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8j7v0a4.fsf@localhost> <835yb7were.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0tvuzpl.fsf@localhost> <834jqrwbgu.fsf@gnu.org> <87a60grf9t.fsf@localhost> <83h6uou842.fsf@gnu.org> <87cz1y86yc.fsf@localhost> <83h6raukcj.fsf@gnu.org> <87a5x2828i.fsf@localhost> <83edmeuixj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34172"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, arne_bab@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 16 11:56:29 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qA6Bx-0008hJ-LZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:56:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qA6BC-00065V-2Z; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 05:55:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qA6BA-000656-8R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 05:55:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qA6B8-0007fl-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 05:55:39 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2DC3C24002B for ; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:55:35 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1686909335; bh=tay0a6ZXtHTrVrnNtMsrJcmgJ/2vVUjC2USd7X91Yic=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=btbXUTHYgAV01sqnEgiIn8YVXX2eLA609hbtM5GbgXAml6UfC/u5KO47+tr0esydF lfdcNMcsgyNr46JOZ4oRaEmKVxKbL+k9oU/ekV9ZyoQxZgRnH/rOACEiP6ditSDcE2 XCockr3NTB2qJ4WZSCmwjxw3z//2zu4Ejwqt3x18tYH0axHeR+7f3964VwsK/1SP72 6qq9yv/IumrMIcxaHWtMYcQPA7jmO8qkC/C5QyPUhMUu+1u0ApuoFegJKSwXwzxrst 0+W790YXET8TSpv4yEq5cHpgO9RtM9Nis8lWHlhd2L7cK2qKBWopkhqvyBnaH7BOau 104HaWOiCVroA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4QjF062TlSz6tn4; Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:55:34 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83edmeuixj.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306823 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I meant to ask users install emacs-gc-stats and enable >> emacs-gc-stats-mode, leaving all other Emacs GC as they are now. After >> several weeks, we will ask these users to share the results. >> This will provide the baseline. > > Yes, we definitely need a baseline. But the baseline should be based > on the default values of the GC parameters, so people who share their > statistics should take care to reset them to the default values. Ok. I updated the readme and package as the following: (require 'emacs-gc-stats) (setq emacs-gc-stats-gc-defaults 'emacs-defaults) ; optional (emacs-gc-stats-mode +1) This will optionally reset Emacs GC settings to defaults for Emacs master. Now, how should we collect the data? I see several options: 1. I can create a dedicated mailing list to have an email to get all the replies. 2. We can collect directly in emacs-devel, but it will not be in a single email thread. 3. I can use In-Reply-To for this thread, but only people with Emacs email setup will be able to reply properly. 4. I can ask to create a dedicated survey on https://emacssurvey.org/ WDYT? -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at