From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Org mode and Emacs Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 11:12:03 +0000 Message-ID: <877cpm2et8.fsf@localhost> References: <87y1u8b1gj.fsf@gmail.com> <8735cgot9x.fsf@gnu.org> <83leq7naql.fsf@gnu.org> <86o7v3ryan.fsf@gmail.com> <87wn9qfyv6.fsf@gnu.org> <87r0zy63u3.fsf@localhost> <87h70ufwr1.fsf@gnu.org> <87o7j48eg9.fsf@localhost> <83ttsw2oeb.fsf@gnu.org> <87lee889ta.fsf@localhost> <87msyi6qk7.fsf@localhost> <87bkey6n0s.fsf@yandex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39399"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, bzg@gnu.org, yantar92@gmail.com, theophilusx@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: m43cap@yandex.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 23 13:12:33 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qYlmq-000A5x-QR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 13:12:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYlm3-0005ZG-3r; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:11:43 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYlm0-0005Yo-Tm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:11:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYllx-0003dO-Ft for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 07:11:40 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A3178240104 for ; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 13:11:34 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1692789094; bh=AAs3O4F77LRhUO8K6vqO2ckTZeWOt+tkaToBYnf/m7Q=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:From; b=rjW4LFfeQRXZ+TCbtcGEWQlOmSkTjov2pNgqvn7ySk7CdzRO5i2VT6dsgWdfinlOj ySxI8sQN05930FkBp4kkonLueTh9eW93k5kIiuuRf7kIGlJW3iiU35mV/HXmw6/ZP2 nIrqhZtcHuonBljYvt4i6j3mleQbUoGIKaapS46WN0FaVc9PsCTyMAIRhMc9JyP88G MjMhunXrqr6QR6ihRloBdjhoRXbEmiBZJ0TNnrFVUhxuBz9IRAT1KpaOYisEqn65hE Y25Ah1g/Le4ES1VwBzi5vVVW5ptR4S7pB0iDF76Ftmzb41Y6f40i8xk40aBVt8GMY4 OgAayxkMYI68Q== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4RW3SP5PzWz6twm; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 13:11:33 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87bkey6n0s.fsf@yandex.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=yantar92@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H5=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:309132 Archived-At: Colin Baxter writes: >>>>>> Ihor Radchenko writes: > > > Richard Stallman writes: > >> The idea is based on a factual assumption that I think is true > >> but it couldn't hurt to check. As I understand it, Org format is > >> fits into a family of formats, also including Markup and Sphinx, > >> which are similar in the basics. > > > At least, Wikipedia classifies Org into "Lightweight Markup" > > family: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightweight_markup_language > > "Lightweight Markup" appears to be the author's invention, with no > reference or citation given. Why is it a problem? I have seen this term elsewhere as well. In any case, the key point is not the terminology, but the fact that other people independently grouped Org markup with multiple other markups that are widely used. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at