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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 2d49bf7c141070b196dd7b205df82b10; Fri, 10 Nov 2023 02:04:25 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87il6bt4z0.fsf@yahoo.com> (Po Lu's message of "Thu, 09 Nov 2023 21:45:55 +0800") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21896 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.188.146; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic303-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312450 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Respect for volunteers is no doubt laudable, but it is very much an > position to be considered alone which everything you've presented above > does not impact and nobody takes exception to. From it, and even > supposing for the sake of argument that everything else you've said is > incontrovertible fact, it doesn't really follow that we should not seek > to reduce the incidence of cl-lib usage in core code. Now I can't be > certain that is the object of your militating, if you will, though > promoting cl-set-difference and cl-position as alternatives to hallowed > Emacs Lisp constructs does suggest so, but the principle argument --------- Principal, sorry.