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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312953 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > I disagree that there's a disadvantage in that, let alone a grave one. > I'm using desktop.el, which does both of the above, for many years, > and have yet to see any problems with that. I know this is a disadvantage for one subset of our users, because I often witness them kill Emacs in precisely the fashion I mentioned earlier. And that's if the lock files strewn everywhere belonging to long-dead Emacs sessions aren't evidence enough.