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From: Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>
To: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: replacement of find-file-not-found-hooks
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2024 08:52:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <877cdc8us0.fsf@mat.ucm.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CADwFkm=dQZ_UkkDm1ifHGhUGs-b+9_bviUXbcUTVX=qGKEiq_w@mail.gmail.com

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>>> "SK" == Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> writes:

> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
>> Should we make the old name `find-file-not-found-hooks' an alias for
>> `find-file-not-found-functions'?  Perhaps make it obsolete now, and
>> rename it in version 32?

> It was declared obsolete (with `define-obsolete-variable-alias') already
> in Emacs version 22.1, and it was subsequently removed in Emacs 29.1.

Let me add some comments, as a very-long-time user.

The problem I encountered has to do with auto-insert-tkld.el a package
that dates back to 1988, and still works and does the job it was
designed for.

Now renaming a functionality breaks down older packages (and in this
particular case I would have preferred if that hook (or function) had
been called find-file-not-found-hook-functions, or something like this,
because it makes it easier for the user to pin down the problem.

I recently slowed down in trying out the latest emacs versions (that is
master), just because of this issue: renaming functions and variables will
cause me to spend maybe a couple of days fixing things.

Don't get me wrong, if there is a new exciting feature, like full BIDI
support or prettify-symbols-mode, I will try it out.

But nowadays I only upgrade if the packages I use most, like auctex and
orgmode require it.

I wished there was compatibility file, in which old for some reason
obsolete variables, functions etc would go so that the user you upgrade
more swiftly.

Regards

Uwe Brauer

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-07-23  6:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-20 14:52 replacement of find-file-not-found-hooks Uwe Brauer via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-20 15:08 ` [Solved] (was: replacement of find-file-not-found-hooks) Uwe Brauer via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-20 15:10 ` replacement of find-file-not-found-hooks Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-20 17:37 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-07-21 15:00   ` Uwe Brauer via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-21 15:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-23  3:42     ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-23  4:32       ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-23  6:52         ` Uwe Brauer [this message]
2024-07-23  8:41           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-23 11:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-23 19:34               ` Uwe Brauer
2024-07-23 20:38                 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-24 11:13                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-24 12:33                   ` [toggle-read-only] (was: replacement of find-file-not-found-hooks) Uwe Brauer
2024-07-24 12:47                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-24 15:50                       ` [toggle-read-only] Uwe Brauer
2024-07-24 16:41                         ` [toggle-read-only] Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-23 21:45           ` replacement of find-file-not-found-hooks Björn Bidar

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