From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jan D." Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior? Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:28:29 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <876E93D9-5003-11D8-BC55-00039363E640@swipnet.se> References: <877jzn2lk8.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <16401.5059.249741.523854@chiark.greenend.org.uk> <16404.63472.223534.499091@chiark.greenend.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v609) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1075126544 10126 80.91.224.253 (26 Jan 2004 14:15:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:15:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Simon Josefsson , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 26 15:15:32 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Al7WW-0003ua-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:15:32 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Al7WW-0006jf-00 for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:15:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al6o8-0004Vq-08 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:29:40 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Al6nv-0004Ua-3K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:29:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1Al6nM-0004Kg-Ky for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:29:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [213.115.192.53] (helo=mail2.norrnet.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Al6nM-0004KC-3I; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 08:28:52 -0500 Original-Received: from stubby.bodenonline.com (stubby.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.94]) by mail2.norrnet.net (BorderWare MXtreme Mail Firewall) with ESMTP id 4B1752DC7A; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:28:49 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from accessno42.bodenonline.com (accessno42.bodenonline.com [193.201.16.44]) by stubby.bodenonline.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id i0QEKrpi023103; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:20:54 +0100 In-Reply-To: <16404.63472.223534.499091@chiark.greenend.org.uk> Original-To: Ian Jackson X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.609) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19484 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19484 > Jan D. writes ("Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior?"): >> This may not do the right thing. It is not uncommon to not run any >> sendmail daemon, but just forward everything to another host. If we >> do it like this, the mail will never be delivered, but sit in the >> queue forever. > > There is no reliable way for Emacs to prevent /usr/lib/sendmail from > choosing to sit on the mail, if that's what it's configured by the > sysadmin to do. Consider an installation whose mail hub is > temporarily down. The point is if this is changed, there will be places where Emacs previously did deliver mail, and now no longer does. It is an incompatible change, not to be made lightly IMHO. Jan D.