From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: reducing defface redundancy Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:41:08 +0200 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: <87662muv2j.fsf@emacswiki.org> References: <877kn3qczq.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1019324371 25592 127.0.0.1 (20 Apr 2002 17:39:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:39:31 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16yype-0006ef-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:39:30 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16yz9b-00040A-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 20:00:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yypS-0000dl-00; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:39:18 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.cablecom.net ([62.2.33.101]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16yynm-0000ZI-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 13:37:34 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.swissonline.ch (mail-4.swissonline.ch [62.2.32.85]) by relay01.cablecom.net (8.11.6/8.11.4/SOL/AWF/MXRELAY/06072001) with ESMTP id g3KHb2200262 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:37:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from confusibombus (dclient217-162-233-175.hispeed.ch [217.162.233.175]) by smtp.swissonline.ch (8.11.6/8.11.6/SMTPSOL/AWF/2002040101) with ESMTP id g3KHbWr18208 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:37:32 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from alex by confusibombus with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 16yyrE-00009C-00 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:41:08 +0200 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Per Abrahamsen's message of "Sat, 20 Apr 2002 17:59:41 +0200") Original-Lines: 17 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090006 (Oort Gnus v0.06) Emacs/21.2 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.9 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:2860 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:2860 Per Abrahamsen writes: > Actually, I think it would be far more useful to work on the UI, > determine what it needs to become simpler or more useful, and then, > afterwards, start to think about how to translate these changes to the > Lisp interface. I agree with Per. Just remember what happened to custom-theme and friends... There just was no UI to actually handy all that ilisp cleverness. And compare the success of color-theme.el to that. It is much simpler (the elisp is a no-brainer), but the UI works. And is the important thing. Alex. -- http://www.electronicintifada.net/diaries/index.html http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/US-Israel/hr2506c.html