From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: printing most-negative-fixnum fails Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 19:47:59 +0300 Organization: JURTA Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <8765b2g9x5.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <200405062008.i46K8x4R015248@brains.moreideas.ca> <87vfj3g1kv.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084296863 18200 80.91.224.253 (11 May 2004 17:34:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 17:34:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs@whaite.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Tue May 11 19:34:15 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNb8x-0001lr-00 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 19:34:15 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BNb8x-00019U-00 for ; Tue, 11 May 2004 19:34:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BNb6j-0003Zv-DW for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:31:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BNb6R-0003Qr-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:31:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.34) id 1BNb5u-00039P-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:31:37 -0400 Original-Received: from [66.33.219.4] (helo=spork.dreamhost.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BNb5u-00038w-Ct; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:31:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (80-235-44-143-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.44.143]) by spork.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E94411DC29; Tue, 11 May 2004 10:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 11 May 2004 08:23:31 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110002 (No Gnus v0.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:23160 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23160 Richard Stallman writes: > The bug exists because the range of integers is greater > and there are bits above the character flags. So I put the > change below into casefiddle.c. I tested your change, and it works. > I remember it was agreed some time ago that by default C-x C-e should > not display numbers as characters to avoid all related problems. > > Who agreed on that? There was discussion on emacs-pretest-bug three month ago, where people expressed dissatisfaction with this feature. > It seems to me that this feature is useful and harmless, and that the > extra complexity of adding an option to disable it is not worth while. > We have to fix these bugs anyway, so the option won't save us any work. This feature is not harmless, because often it causes a window system to load unnecessary fonts to memory to display some unrelated characters. And also when it displays strange characters, it confuses users. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/