Re: [drew.adams@oracle.com: No doc for cl stuff even after loading cl?]

[Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>]

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> I agree that this is a bug.  Can someone work on it, then ack?

Having looked into this, I think the only way around the current
behavior would be to have cl.el load all the cl-* libraries instead of
autoloading individual functions (which is Bad), or pasting all the
documentation strings in the cl-* files into cl.el for autoloading
(which is Silly).  I don't think this is worth fixing.

> From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> Subject: No doc for cl stuff even after loading cl?
> To: "Emacs-Pretest-Bug" <emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org>
>
> emacs -Q
>
> C-h f flet finds no match. Normal
> M-x load-library cl
> C-h f flet then gives this:
>
>   flet is an autoloaded Lisp macro in `cl-macs'.
>   [Arg list not available until function definition is loaded.]
>
>   Not documented.
>
> That doesn't seem right. What's a user to do, chase down the various
> cl libraries (in this case cl-macs.el, presumably) in order to get
> doc? 
>
> If a user is asking for doc, we should give it to him/her, instead of
> saying that is not available until the function definition is
> loaded. This looks like Emacs is deliberately being uncooperative,
> making the user jump through hoops to get what s?he asks for. If we
> want to avoid loading large libraries, then perhaps we should split
> off the doc in such cases so we can provide it without loading
> everything.