From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: change cursor type when idle Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:27:38 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <8764gbb911.fsf@jurta.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156883304 24273 80.91.229.2 (29 Aug 2006 20:28:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:28:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 29 22:28:18 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIABq-0007Fl-1J for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:28:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIABo-0002a9-MT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:28:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GIABb-0002Zc-LD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GIABZ-0002Y9-TQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:27:51 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GIABZ-0002Y6-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:27:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.64.120.200] (helo=relay01.kiev.sovam.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GIAKo-0005dz-O2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GIABU-0001GB-Ql; Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:27:47 +0300 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:13:28 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: d0b3bc0b24c4067239780ad28ae5b444 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 227 [August 24 2006] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: not dialup} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Method: Local Lists X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0242], KAS30/Release X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:59077 Archived-At: > I like your proposed feature, but I have one doubt. Usually I use the > bar cursor, and sometimes it is hard to locate it in dense text areas. > Changing its type to a box cursor (and/or its color) would help, > but any delay before changing it (e.g. 2 sec) seems arbitrary. > I need to make the cursor more visible not after some delay, but > only when I need to locate it. > > Ah, I see... The version that lights up and screams "Here!" *ONLY* when you > in fact need to locate it is an expensive option ;-). Mind-reading is never > cheap, if it's accurate. What about adding a new function `read-mind'? (after the release) ;-) > Seriously, yes, 2 sec is arbitrary, and you can choose another period that > you might prefer. For me, 1 sec is usually too short, and 3 is usually too > long. Most often a long idle period means that I started reading displayed text, and don't need to see the cursor. I use `avoid.el' to move the mouse pointer away from text, and like to do the same for the cursor. So I rather like to hide the cursor after an idle period than to make it more visible. I see no other way to tell Emacs to show the cursor when need than to press some keys. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/