From: Stephen Berman <Stephen.Berman@gmx.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Initial splash screen
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:19:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87645g6ph5.fsf@escher.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86ir9gi5a2.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:43:01 +0200 David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
> Stephen Berman <Stephen.Berman@gmx.net> writes:
[...]
>> This may have been suggested before (I haven't searched the archives
>> for it), but since the issue has been raised again, what about this:
>> show the splash screen the first time the user invokes Emacs (even
>> with a file name) and ask whether to show it on the next invocation.
>
> This is a bad idea since the splash screen contains quite a bit of
> _useful_ information,
Indeed, but once the user has learned that information, she may not
wish to be reminded of it at each invocation; my proposal amounts to
letting users set inhibit-splash-screen to t, but in the immediate
context of being presented with the useful information they should
know, effectively making them decide that they know the information.
> and starting Emacs without a filename gives us a
> frame where nothing useful can be displayed yet.
Well, that's what being debated in the thread I forked off of; many
people do find an initial *scratch* buffer useful.
> So there is no point in not showing the splash screen indefinitely if
> we are called without file name.
If by `indefinitely' you mean upon every invocation, again, the point
is the same as the reason for having inhibit-splash-screen, whose
effect is not constrained to starting Emacs with a file name.
> But _with_ a file name, the situation is different, and we should
> cater for it differently.
I don't see such a difference: the information in the splash screen
should be learned even if a user always starts Emacs with a file name
(and once the information is learned, the splash screen need not
appear any more, even if you start Emacs without a file name).
Steve Berman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-22 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-21 3:49 A wish, a plea Hacksaw
2007-06-21 18:50 ` Davis Herring
2007-06-21 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-21 19:12 ` Davis Herring
2007-06-22 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 18:55 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-22 3:59 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-21 19:07 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-21 19:17 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-21 21:53 ` Frank Schmitt
2007-06-22 0:36 ` Taylor Venable
2007-06-21 19:43 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 3:57 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-21 20:56 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-22 6:27 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-21 21:36 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 17:27 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-22 21:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-21 21:19 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-21 21:26 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 6:36 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-21 22:08 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-21 23:04 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 6:51 ` csant
2007-06-22 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 17:12 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 21:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 20:47 ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-25 21:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 21:30 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-25 21:30 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 8:03 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-22 8:11 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 8:21 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 8:33 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-22 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-22 12:43 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 12:51 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-22 13:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 13:16 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 12:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-22 18:46 ` Glenn Morris
2007-06-22 19:50 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-22 19:58 ` Glenn Morris
2007-06-22 20:22 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-22 10:23 ` Initial splash screen (was Re: A wish, a plea) Stephen Berman
2007-06-22 11:43 ` Initial splash screen David Kastrup
2007-06-22 14:19 ` Stephen Berman [this message]
2007-06-22 20:09 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 23:07 ` Stephen Berman
2007-06-22 21:53 ` Initial splash screen (was Re: A wish, a plea) Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 22:11 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-23 13:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 14:57 ` Initial splash screen David Kastrup
2007-06-22 22:46 ` Initial splash screen (was Re: A wish, a plea) Stephen Berman
2007-06-23 6:42 ` Initial splash screen David Kastrup
2007-06-23 10:43 ` Stephen Berman
2007-06-23 18:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 19:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 13:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 13:34 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-06-25 13:38 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 18:51 ` A wish, a plea Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 20:05 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-23 13:19 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 14:45 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-23 19:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-24 14:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 19:02 ` Ryan Yeske
2007-06-28 1:04 ` Davis Herring
2007-06-22 16:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-22 16:36 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-22 21:53 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 6:21 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-23 18:27 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 18:58 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2007-06-23 19:07 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-24 14:41 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-23 19:47 ` Hacksaw
2007-06-24 15:13 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-24 17:18 ` Hacksaw
2007-06-24 23:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-25 8:07 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-21 23:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-22 7:57 ` Sascha Wilde
2007-06-22 8:01 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-22 8:16 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 8:32 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 9:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 9:20 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-22 9:55 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 8:01 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-22 8:15 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-22 8:19 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-22 11:58 ` David House
2007-06-22 8:20 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 13:19 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 13:33 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 14:23 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-22 14:34 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 15:10 ` David House
2007-06-22 15:31 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-23 23:48 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-06-24 0:06 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-24 0:15 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-24 1:17 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-24 10:15 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-24 14:05 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-24 14:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-24 14:28 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-25 20:47 ` Juri Linkov
2007-06-25 21:28 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-22 8:41 ` Glyn Millington
2007-06-22 11:54 ` Nic James Ferrier
2007-06-22 12:33 ` Glyn Millington
2007-06-22 9:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-22 14:02 ` Denis Bueno
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