From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: position on changing defaults? Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:50:41 +0100 Message-ID: <8763vy95a6.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> References: <200803050637.m256bXL3008361@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <87hcfkdhqk.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pru8enjx.fsf@kfs-lx.rd.rdm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204887066 32530 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2008 10:51:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 10:51:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 07 11:51:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXaAl-000347-R8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:51:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaAE-0001sG-3l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:50:58 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaA6-0001ot-MF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:50:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaA5-0001ls-45 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:50:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXaA4-0001lJ-Hl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:50:48 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-relay.sonofon.dk ([212.88.64.25]) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXaA3-00046c-TC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:50:48 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 53321 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2008 10:50:45 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO kfs-lx.rd.rdm.cua.dk) (213.83.150.21) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Mar 2008 10:50:45 -0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu\, 06 Mar 2008 22\:38\:59 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91622 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > I don't see why it is really necessary to insist on refactoring > cua-(selection-)mode for these features to be used by default. > > So that we don't have to have all of CUA loaded by default, for one > thing. Basic CUA functionality is already split into a separate module, which is fairly small (most of cua-base.el is commentary and defcustoms). I doubt it can be made much smaller than that. > The more commonly used a feature is, the more desirable it becomes > to avoid using those hooks. I agree - and I'll think about what's needed. -- Kim F. Storm http://www.cua.dk