From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bookmark.el and lisp/gnus/gnus-bookmark.el Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:56:54 +0000 Message-ID: <8763vx77jt.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <874pbj682f.fsf@red-bean.com> <87zltbhbq8.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87iqzzigv6.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ejan7xhq.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87hcfi3egg.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87abla8w6b.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87bq5qhba6.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <871w6m8t59.fsf@member.fsf.org> <87ablamphg.fsf@red-bean.com> <87skz2lacp.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87tzjil9oz.fsf@red-bean.com> <8763vyl964.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <874pbiypad.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1204977437 23996 80.91.229.12 (8 Mar 2008 11:57:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:57:17 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org, Stefan Monnier , Karl Fogel , Tassilo Horn , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 08 12:57:44 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JXxgN-0004Jk-LV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:57:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXxfp-0006jx-OQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:57:09 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXxfl-0006ic-F4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JXxfj-0006gc-PD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JXxfj-0006gU-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.157]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JXxfi-00081l-Ml for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:57:03 -0500 Original-Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id d23so971836fga.30 for ; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:57:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=zze4JdwesV1mB/CQZDUun0qxTRi2IEhEy7+93HCyzfY=; b=RKpiW8vUCvHFDV0qaXjQSm5k3gAvQg8qo10fJotlpNAGVhNK71MwuIboxXPDNM2fhR2G7u9EppUmsKcCICsChOvbKLzBlsde1jjncNh5zEzdrnmRgJXY5VPjdh9WH2Tkv12r+oOTE1KcwQuuatv3cuL5+VH9+zQ5/2LiZU3wHK0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=c35pGA6Z2QHv6cCpYUOnOrOCLtsssMNyMV9lrsdoMjb7QE+TQn6l1XR3/4Xy7PlEgdOnokk1+0kUPMp/5uElk4ocD4vsztD5FKrN9VueJezXGDK6kUCHcWTBNkuj54xK+7xihVTWmaTHJ+eCh6XABLnw3F7y+nh/tqqaL5RKmHE= Original-Received: by 10.82.155.10 with SMTP id c10mr6253650bue.7.1204977418501; Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:56:58 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ( [81.99.213.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm5238038gvf.0.2008.03.08.03.56.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:56:56 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by bzg.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 65CF615796E; Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:56:54 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: (Reiner Steib's message of "Sat, 08 Mar 2008 12:35:10 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:91714 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:66457 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: > Do I understand correctly that after changing gnus-bookmark.el, it > will take advantage of new features in bookmark.el that are not > present in Emacs < 23. I.e. it wont work in Emacs 22 at all (and > XEmacs?). Yes. > As `gnus-bookmark.el' is quite new in No Gnus, I don't expect many > Emacs <= 22 users use it intensively. If it is not too much work, it > would be nice to make it work for all supported Emacsen, cf. (info > "(gnus)Emacsen"). But I don't insist on this. I think this is too much work, and as you said, not that many people might be using this feature. The only thing is this: gnus-bookmark.el was good to get Gnus bookmarks and *only* them. This will go away with the new gnus-bookmark.el. So, since the new feature of bookmark.el will help many modes provide their own ways of setting a bookmark, I think it would make sense to have a "type" key in the bookmark record (similar to the annotation), and be able to list bookmarks of a certain type only. C-u C-x r l [Prompt type] Info RET => list bookmark of Info type C-u C-x r l [Prompt type] Gnus RET => list Gnus bookmarks If you think it is a good idea, I will do it. > If you don't support > Emacs < 23, please ... > > - document that only Emacs 23 and up are supported, > > - make sure that it doesn't disturb compiling Gnus with Emacs < 23 too > much, > > - signal appropriate errors when trying to use it in Emacs < 23. Ok, will do this. -- Bastien