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From: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: pmr@pajato.com, lennart.borgman@gmail.com, joakim@verona.se,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	smeuuh@gmail.com, raman@users.sourceforge.net,
	phil@shellarchive.co.uk
Subject: Re: An Emacs plug-in for a browser (Firefox?)
Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:29:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8763p795cq.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1KcOEc-0005xi-Cl@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Sun, 07 Sep 2008 13:39:38 -0400")

"Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> It looks like you are proposing a new feature which consists of
> editing HTML and viewng the formatted results on the side.  Is that
> correct?
>
> It did not occur to me that that is what people were talking about,
> because it doesn't seem like much of an advance.  If we want it, the
> clean and simple implemenation is to run the browser in a separate
> process.  It could do the display in a window provided by Emacs, or in
> its own window.

I think the main point is that nowadays people use the web a *lot*.
Personally, the time I spend using a web browser is several orders of
magnitude more than the time I spend using a word processor.

Switching constantly between Emacs and Firefox (e.g., by making Emacs
open links via a separate Firefox application) is inefficient.  By
analogy, we provide comint interfaces between Emacs and programs like
gdb, so that people can continue using those external programs while
staying in the Emacs environment.

The difference here is that the relevant output of programs like gdb is
text, while the relevant output of a web browser is an interactive
graphical display.  (Note the "interactive" part, which is why
approaches like rendering into PDF aren't very useful.)  Thus, to answer
your original question, "embedding" means delegating the contents of an
Emacs window (or part of an Emacs window) to a web browser process, such
as Mozilla Gecko or Webkit.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-09-07 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-04 22:18 An Emacs plug-in for a browser (Firefox?) Paul Michael Reilly
2008-09-05  0:16 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-09-05  0:19 ` David House
2008-09-05  2:42 ` T. V. Raman
2008-09-05  4:53   ` Paul Michael Reilly
2008-09-05  6:44     ` joakim
2008-09-05  8:53       ` Phil Jackson
2008-09-05  9:21         ` joakim
2008-09-05  9:30           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-05 11:20             ` Antoine Levitt
2008-09-06  7:12               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-06 10:48                 ` Antoine Levitt
2008-09-06 21:04                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-06 21:36                     ` David Hansen
2008-09-06 21:49                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-06 22:25                         ` David Hansen
2008-09-06 22:48                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-06 23:08                             ` David Hansen
2008-09-06 22:41                       ` Sean O'Rourke
2008-09-07 23:36                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-06 16:42                 ` Chong Yidong
2008-09-06 16:58                   ` joakim
2008-09-06 19:42                     ` Chong Yidong
2008-09-06 20:20                     ` David Hansen
2008-09-06 21:54                   ` T. V. Raman
2008-09-06 20:11                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-07 17:39                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-07 17:49                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-09-07 18:29                     ` Chong Yidong [this message]
2008-09-08  9:22                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-08 12:31                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-09-08 17:07                           ` Antoine Levitt
2008-09-08 19:05                             ` Thomas Lord
2008-09-08 19:07                               ` Antoine Levitt
2008-09-08 20:27                                 ` Thomas Lord
2008-09-08 20:34                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-08 21:33                                 ` joakim
2008-09-08 21:46                                 ` Thomas Lord
2008-09-09  8:11                               ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-08 22:13                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-07 19:55                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-09-08  9:22                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2008-09-05 13:33         ` T. V. Raman
2008-09-05 13:32     ` T. V. Raman
2008-09-05 20:40   ` Christian Faulhammer

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