From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sam Steingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A note about Antinews Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:34:10 -0500 Organization: disorganization Message-ID: <8763m5rx4t.fsf@podval.org> References: Reply-To: sds@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1228065060 318 80.91.229.12 (30 Nov 2008 17:11:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:11:00 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Nov 30 18:12:02 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1L6ppr-00029N-Fe for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:11:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34176 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L6poh-0006sL-2w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:10:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L6pFY-0001pw-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:34:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1L6pFX-0001p6-5W for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:34:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33280 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1L6pFW-0001op-VD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:34:22 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:58525 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L6pFW-0001Nm-88 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:34:22 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1L6pFO-0008Im-2L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:34:15 +0000 Original-Received: from ool-182f7bcc.dyn.optonline.net ([24.47.123.204]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:34:14 +0000 Original-Received: from sds by ool-182f7bcc.dyn.optonline.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:34:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 26 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ool-182f7bcc.dyn.optonline.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never X-Attribution: Sam X-Disclaimer: You should not expect anyone to agree with me. Cancel-Lock: sha1:8yTcNsjo+OMxCfe/1VEj6oKt+1A= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:106335 Archived-At: > * Richard M Stallman [2008-11-29 04:17:25 -0500]: > > Since the purpose of Antinews is to help people use the previous Emacs > version, there is usually no need to mention features that are simply > absent in that version. That situation will be clear enough to users > without help from the manual. > > For instance, this > > @item > Emacs can no longer be started as a daemon. We decided that having an > Emacs sitting silently in the background with no visual manifestation > anywhere in sight is too confusing. > > may not need mentioning, because --daemon will give an error message > saying it's not implemented, and other cases aren't affected. ISTR that when Mule was added to Emacs, it was mentioned in Antinews as "Emacs no longer is hubbled by the i18n complexity, being limited to 8-bit characters". -- Sam Steingold (http://sds.podval.org/) on Ubuntu 8.10 (intrepid) http://israelunderattack.slide.com http://memri.org http://mideasttruth.com http://camera.org http://dhimmi.com http://palestinefacts.org http://ffii.org Good programmers treat Microsoft products as damage and route around it.